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If you want to kill deer with an AR get a 300 bo or some other more suited round. People do it just to prove they can and dont much care if a deer suffers.
#223 subsonic with clays powder full#
Im not even a fan of full power 556 for deer hunting. Maybe I am jaded as I have poachers in my area and this is the kind of crap they do with. We should be discouraging such endeavors, not condoning them or providing assistance. There is no good reason to harvest deer with a 1000 fps 55 gr bullet.
It is very unlikely neighbors would be bothered by, or report gunshots during deer season anyway. Using a decent load is more important than keeping the noise down for neighbors. Hunting deer with a subsonic 55 gr bullet is unethical. Since I am the only one who seems bothered. I’m new to casting, not shooting and or hunting. You should give people a little more credit before you make too many assumptions. It actually worked really well with a through and through to the neck. If you had wounded the deer, with only one sub-sonic round, what was your plan?I had started with several that were given to me. Was it loaded with a cast bullet or something like the the Hornady SX? You decided to kill a deer with the one round you had. You said "I shot an axis deer with a subsonic 223 round I had picked up somewhere." Think about that statement for a minute.I am left with the impression you had one round, have no idea how it was loaded or who loaded it. Given the desire to hunt silently at close range, why not get a crossbow? A subsonic 55 gr bullet is not a good choice IMO.Ī wounded deer dying on the property of your nosey neighbors will not be well received.īTW, almost everyone else here is very .not so much.
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